The second problem is latency, the amount of time- even if you had enough moderators, even if the artificial intelligence worked, which it doesn't, but even if those things worked perfectly, there's still going to be a lag. So the notion that you're going to somehow effectively monitor that number of posts is a big stretch. Facebook, for example, where the worst offenses have taken place, has literally billions of posts every day. ROGER MCNAMEE: So I'm not at all confident that we can fix this problem. And so, Roger, where does the conversation go in terms of accountability for those posting as well as those moderating and the pace at which they're able to monitor these things? And for a platform that has as much influence on politics and democracy as Twitter has, that's extraordinarily dangerous. Twitter has a whistleblower who showed that there are people inside Twitter who are working for foreign governments. And I think that the whole situation with Kanye West, with Elon Musk attempting to buy Twitter, really highlights the extraordinary inaction and, frankly, in my mind, really unpardonable inaction by Congress, by the president to do something about what is clearly a threat, not just to safety in the country, but especially to national security.

And yet policymakers have done nothing, absolutely nothing. We've had extraordinary damage done to democracy, public health, public safety, and people's ability to make their own choices. We've had the insurrection with Stop the Steal. We've had the COVID pandemic and the undermining of the country's response to that. We've had an extraordinary number of terrorist events. Since then, we've had ethnic cleansing in Myanmar. ROGER MCNAMEE: The context is that six years ago, there was interference in the UK referendum around Brexit and then the US presidential election. I guess just from your perspective, what does this tell us just in terms of where we are when it comes to policies and the handling of hate speech on these social media platforms? Certainly there has been a large debate about content moderation, how social media companies should go about this. Joining us now for more on this, we want to bring in Roger McNamee, Elevation Partners managing director and author of 'Zucked.' Roger, it's great to see you again.

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